Perhaps refine was a wrong word. Example was the one that should be used. jaytea always has something discouraging, depending on whom he comes across, to say of the comments he sees otherwise. I don't, and will never, claim myself as a regex God but am here to help with the best of my knowledge. And MakiMaki, what makes you think I'll take my time to "go on" about your comments when you've tagged along after jaytea? What good does that do?