Come on SoulMuncher, cut Slyvar some slack. You should be sounding encouraging, rather than critical of someone learning of socket. We all have been there, taking other people's codes, dissecting them, and reading it into something we can understand gradually. There's nothing wrong with imitating other people's scripts; in fact, it helps to improve our ability to code something we haven't a clue about to begin with. Keep it up Slyvar, don't let anybody else steer you in a disappointing direction.