Well, If by winning one means to post a code to compare against other people's, he or she definitely lets their ego work too hard to be pleased. I'm not saying winning isn't everything, it's an instinct we humans have and strive to have throughout our lives. But posting at Hawkee to win is not the kind of winning I aim for. There's no better definition to describe winning, really, and I'll leave you to your own take on it. =)