it was only intended as a simple snippet for newcomers to see a basic anti flood in operation. it is short, not much code, easy to see what does what and it is functional. that is what i intended it to be. i do have more advanced snippets i have submitted, but this was never made to be one. i know i could have used the -u10 etc,.. or the echo -a but this is about simplicity. as for the spamming.. it will only spam the user if they continually attempt to access the command.. although most people would give up if it did not work again after the 2nd or 3rd time and actually ask in channel why it not working.. well. i say most people lol.. depends how bright they are :)