Microblivion II - Carbon Fiber Frame - HD Runcam Split 3 Nano on 4s

By wrong17 on Sep 30, 2019

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Thanks to Dave_C_FPV for the great frame design from Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3792194), we liked it so much that we got it custom cut from 3.5mm carbon fiber. It was a tad heavier than we hoped but 12g is not too bad. There are a few important key factors that determine the frame we wanted:

  • 1404 motors (4 bolt pattern and 14XX size motor protection)
  • TinyWhoop AIO boards with bottom facing USB port

After our initial testing with a RotorX 1404 3600kv motor we knew that we wanted to continue using a 1404 size motor, because they are very efficient and powerful. At the total extreme, you can get over 11 minutes of flight time with a 4s 520mah lipo. And if you freestyle you can get at least 4 minutes or more, but it all depends on how you fly.

Since I am planning to use a GEPRC AIO 12a board, I needed a frame that supported a bottom facing USB. Only recently, Nameless RC and BetaFPV came out with a TinyWhoop AIO board with a side USB port. With these new boards, I will not need to worry about finding a frame that works with the GEPRC AIO 12a board.

We start off by 3D printing the Microblivion II frame with various material and we were not too impressed with the strength of the frames in relations to the weight.
Stiffness (Firmest first)

  1. Carbon Fiber PLA
  2. PLA
  3. Carbon Fiber Polycarbonate
  4. PETG

Weight (Lightest first)

  1. Carbon Fiber Polycarbonate @8.70g
  2. PLA @10.75G
  3. Carbon Fiber PLA @11.07g
  4. PETG @ 11.11g

The 3D printed frames are 4mm thick and the custom cut Carbon Fiber frame is only 3.5mm. To our surprise the carbon fiber cut frame weighs the most at 11.72 (it’s actually 12g but it lost a little bit of weight after I sanded the edges). And without a doubt the carbon fiber cut frame is significantly stiffer than any 3D printed frame. For 3D printed frames, being firm does not mean that it will be the most durable. Typical a PETG part would be a lot more durable than PLA. However, to much flex is not good for a quadcopter either. Overtime a 3D printed frame will most likely to fail, especially if you fly it hard and I am not a big fan of constantly rebuilding these tiny quads. So, I rather pay a few extra bucks and get a real carbon fiber frame. However, as Dave_C_FPV mention before the advantages of a 3D printed frame is the cost and its immediately available. Unless you happen to have a CNC machine at home, then that’s a whole different story.

Special thanks to my buddy Erick ( https://rotorbuilds.com/profile/7846/ ) for finishing up my build. Here is what happen during my first go around with this build. I just completed all the settings on betaflight, tested the motors directions, and ETC. I did all the preparations with a 2s lipo and everything worked fine. But when I plugged in a 4s lipo for the maiden flight, it lit up like a light bulb.

Similar to my Flexrc Simple X 120, I was getting mid throttle oscillation. The strange thing about it is that it does not always happen. I made a few changes on Betaflight and the oscillation went away.
My current PIDs settings with Betaflight 4.0.2 are (mostly stock settings):
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More info soon..... in the mean time here is the maiden flight video:

Runcam Split 3 Nano:



Part List


The Microblivion II by Dave_C_FPV (8 builds)
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Flight Controller

GEP-12A-F4 Flight Controller 12A ESC - GEPRC (31 builds)


4 x AirBlade Superman AB 1404 Toothpick 3/4 inch Brushless Motors (58 builds)


HQProp T3X3X3 PC Propeller (Set of 4) (38 builds)

FPV Camera

RunCam Split 3 Series (89 builds)

FPV Transmitter

TBS Unify Pro32 Nano 5G8 V1.1 VTx Video Transmitter (396 builds)


Team BlackSheep TBS Crossfire Nano RX - Heli-Nation (1484 builds)


Gaoneng GNB 4S 520mah HV 80C XT30 Lipo Battery (16 builds)


Team BlackSheep TBS TANGO 2 V3 PRO RC RADIO (104 builds)


DJI Goggles 2 (7 builds)

HD Camera

GoPro Bones - HERO10 Black (FPV Lightweight Drone Camera) (3 builds)
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Misc Parts

Toothpick Nano Pod Lite [14mm] by Dave_C_FPV (13 builds)
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Misc Parts

Toothpick Style Quad HD 20x20 Adapter Caddx Turtle Tarsier or Runcam Split by wrong17 (4 builds)
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Battery Charger

HOTA F6+ 1000W 60A 1-6S Quad Channel AC/DC Smart Charger - Grey

Battery Charger

HOTA D6 PRO Dual Charger 1-6S AC200W/DC650W 15A w/ Wireless Cellphone Charging - Black (14 builds)

Soldering Iron

TS100 Portable Programmable Smart Soldering Iron (264 builds)


Lowepro QuadGuard BP X3 - Drone Backpack for 4 FPV Quad Racing Drones and 15" Laptop w/Exterior Mounts (Black)


iFlight Crystal HD Patch and Stubby 5.8GHz RP-SMA Antenna Set for DJI - LHCP - Carbon
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Dave_C FPV   Oct 01, 2019  

Great build and really insigtful post! Fully share your view that carbon fiber is the superior frame material in terms of performance and durability (no big surprise). The advatages of 3D prining it are more about being cheap and always immediately availabe

wrong17   Oct 01, 2019 

Once again thanks for all the great designs you have share on thingiverse! You are right and I just lost sight of the main purpose of a 3D printed frame. I think my lack of free time to working on my hobby has played a role on my main focus of maximum durability.

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