For anyone wondering, I would expect 1202.5s to be slightly less powerful and slightly more efficient with the same kv due to a shorter motor and overall slightly less stator volume.

what

I'll try to get one up this week. Need this rain to stop!

Rain stopped for a few! Here's a vid

https://vimeo.com/1085384048?share=copy

Sorry for the late reply. The DJI action cameras seems to have trouble with vibration and jello, so if you switch to a GoPro I am pretty sure it will not have the same issue. The current tune that I am using is the present on Betaflight for an 10 quad and it seems to be working well. Make sure you have enough weight on the quad. Meaning, when I took my first flight with a 1800mah 6s lipo, it did not handle very well. As I added heavier batteries, it seems to be flying smoother.

You were right. After I posted the question about vibration, I threw an old GoPro on mine and the footage was smooth. Looked like an entirely different drone. A few days later I went to fly and forgot my GP batteries. I had the Action 4 with me so I put it on and flew. The footage was just as lousy as before. Even the footage out of my O3 looked terrible. Weird how bad anything DJI is on this drone. Oh well--I ordered a new GP and I'm good using it. I'm using a big ass Lithium Ion pack and it flies great.

I just put the Master Airscrew props on mine. Also 3d printed a GP mount that should be much sturdier than the stock mount. Haven't flown it yet. Will be interested to see if there is any difference.

I'm jealous of your GPS/Antenna mount. I'm using SMA antennas but had to make the stock mount work. I am not well-versed with designing stuff in CAD.

Thanks for the reply.

Well, how about some screen shots, would that do? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F6suznLbGY9dmM4pzle_F1eCIDYegxIS?usp=sharing

Let me know if this helps!

Perfect, thanks!

In a bowl - yes!

It should! Thanks for the inspiration. I'm loving this thing.

Hey, for sure! Here i the Diff all (keep in mind it's running an old BF 4.3 version):

diff all

version

Betaflight / BETAFPVF4SX1280 (BHER) 4.3.0 Dec 13 2021 / 11:23:34 (norevision) MSP API: 1.44

start the command batch

batch start

reset configuration to default settings

defaults nosave

board_name BETAFPVF4SX1280
mcu_id 0030006a3053501920383648
signature

name: Bone 3

serial

serial 30 2048 115200 57600 0 115200

beacon

beacon RX_LOST
beacon RX_SET

led

led 0 7,7::CB:4

aux

aux 0 0 0 1300 2100 0 0
aux 1 1 2 1300 1625 0 0
aux 2 13 3 1700 2100 0 0
aux 3 35 2 1550 2100 0 0

adjrange

adjrange 0 0 1 900 2100 12 1 0 0

vtxtable

vtxtable bands 6
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A CUSTOM 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B CUSTOM 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E CUSTOM 5705 5685 5665 5645 5885 5905 5925 5945
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F CUSTOM 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R CUSTOM 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable band 6 LOWRACE I CUSTOM 5362 5399 5436 5473 5510 5547 5584 5621
vtxtable powerlevels 4
vtxtable powervalues 25 100 200 400
vtxtable powerlabels 25 100 200 400

master

set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 375
set gyro_lpf2_static_hz = 750
set dyn_notch_count = 2
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 125
set dyn_notch_max_hz = 850
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 375
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 750
set acc_calibration = -303,-150,40,1
set max_check = 2000
set blackbox_device = NONE
set dshot_bidir = ON
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300
set motor_poles = 12
set motor_output_reordering = 1,3,0,2,4,5,6,7
set current_meter = NONE
set beeper_dshot_beacon_tone = 3
set small_angle = 180
set deadband = 18
set simplified_gyro_filter_multiplier = 150
set osd_warn_link_quality = ON
set osd_vbat_pos = 2433
set osd_rssi_pos = 2048
set osd_link_quality_pos = 2080
set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 2112
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2455
set osd_flymode_pos = 2136
set osd_throttle_pos = 2420
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 2101
set osd_current_pos = 2390
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2442
set osd_pidrate_profile_pos = 2426
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2401
set osd_disarmed_pos = 2409
set osd_stat_max_spd = OFF
set osd_stat_battery = ON
set osd_stat_min_link_quality = ON
set osd_stat_total_time = ON
set osd_stat_min_rssi_dbm = ON
set vtx_band = 5
set vtx_channel = 8
set vtx_power = 4
set vtx_freq = 5917
set vcd_video_system = NTSC
set gyro_1_sensor_align = CW180
set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
set expresslrs_uid = 158,228,109,248,211,98
set rpm_filter_harmonics = 2
set name = Bone 3

profile 0

profile 0

set dterm_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 90
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 180
set dterm_lpf1_static_hz = 90
set dterm_lpf2_static_hz = 180
set anti_gravity_gain = 5000
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 0
set p_pitch = 67
set i_pitch = 120
set d_pitch = 40
set f_pitch = 180
set p_roll = 67
set i_roll = 120
set f_roll = 180
set p_yaw = 67
set i_yaw = 120
set f_yaw = 180
set d_min_roll = 40
set d_min_pitch = 40
set thrust_linear = 20
set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 35
set simplified_master_multiplier = 150
set simplified_d_gain = 90
set simplified_dmax_gain = 0
set simplified_pitch_d_gain = 100
set simplified_pitch_pi_gain = 100
set simplified_dterm_filter_multiplier = 120

profile 1

profile 2

restore original profile selection

profile 0

rateprofile 0

rateprofile 0

set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 100
set pitch_rc_rate = 100
set yaw_rc_rate = 100
set roll_expo = 50
set pitch_expo = 50
set yaw_expo = 50
set roll_srate = 70
set pitch_srate = 70
set yaw_srate = 70

rateprofile 1

rateprofile 1

set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 100
set pitch_rc_rate = 100
set yaw_rc_rate = 100
set roll_expo = 50
set pitch_expo = 50
set yaw_expo = 50
set roll_srate = 75
set pitch_srate = 75
set yaw_srate = 75

rateprofile 2

rateprofile 2

set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 100
set pitch_rc_rate = 100
set yaw_rc_rate = 100
set roll_expo = 50
set pitch_expo = 50
set yaw_expo = 50
set roll_srate = 80
set pitch_srate = 80
set yaw_srate = 80

rateprofile 3

rateprofile 4

rateprofile 5

restore original rateprofile selection

rateprofile 0

save configuration

save

hey hanks for the tune. it works perfectly on mine! a bit different from yours but the concept is the same. this one is a 5 inch with a small tail. the battery balances it.

i uploaded pics but not sure why they arent showing up?

not too sure, I can't see them

Also, how do you like XT30. I am using BT2.0 because better batteries are available and I think additional weight may cancel out XT30 performance. Do you see a difference?

Happy to share the tune.

Betaflight / STM32F411 (S411) 4.5.1 Aug 1 2024 / 16:28:07 (77d01ba3b) MSP API: 1.46

config rev: ad0057e

start the command batch

batch start

reset configuration to default settings

defaults nosave

board_name CRAZYBEEF4SX1280
manufacturer_id HAMO
mcu_id 0044000a3533511037393932
signature

name: BabyTooth HDzero

resources

resource MOTOR 1 B08
resource MOTOR 2 B10
resource MOTOR 3 B06
resource MOTOR 4 B07

feature

feature TELEMETRY
feature OSD

serial

serial 0 131073 115200 57600 0 115200

beeper

beeper -ARMED
beeper -ON_USB

beacon

beacon RX_LOST
beacon RX_SET

map

map TAER1234

aux

aux 0 0 0 1700 2100 0 0
aux 1 13 3 1300 2100 0 0
aux 2 39 2 1300 2100 0 0

vtxtable

vtxtable bands 6
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A CUSTOM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B CUSTOM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E CUSTOM 5705 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F CUSTOM 5740 5760 0 5800 0 0 0 0
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R CUSTOM 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable band 6 LOWBAND L CUSTOM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
vtxtable powerlevels 3
vtxtable powervalues 14 23 0
vtxtable powerlabels 25 200 0

master

set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 0
set dyn_notch_count = 1
set dyn_notch_q = 500
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 150
set acc_hardware = NONE
set acc_lpf_hz = 10
set acc_calibration = -386,-109,-41,1
set rc_smoothing_auto_factor = 40
set blackbox_device = NONE
set dshot_burst = OFF
set dshot_bidir = ON
set dshot_bitbang = ON
set motor_poles = 12
set motor_output_reordering = 0,3,2,1,4,5,6,7
set failsafe_delay = 4
set failsafe_recovery_delay = 20
set align_board_roll = 180
set align_board_yaw = 45
set bat_capacity = 500
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 440
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 290
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 322
set vbat_scale = 111
set beeper_dshot_beacon_tone = 5
set yaw_motors_reversed = ON
set small_angle = 180
set deadband = 3
set yaw_deadband = 3
set pid_process_denom = 2
set report_cell_voltage = ON
set osd_warn_bitmask = 8191
set osd_core_temp_alarm = 100
set osd_vbat_pos = 45
set osd_rssi_pos = 33
set osd_link_quality_pos = 3465
set osd_link_tx_power_pos = 234
set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 3498
set osd_rsnr_pos = 234
set osd_tim_1_pos = 3114
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2433
set osd_remaining_time_estimate_pos = 234
set osd_flymode_pos = 3562
set osd_anti_gravity_pos = 234
set osd_g_force_pos = 65
set osd_throttle_pos = 3529
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 2081
set osd_crosshairs_pos = 205
set osd_ah_sbar_pos = 206
set osd_ah_pos = 78
set osd_current_pos = 2528
set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 2497
set osd_wh_drawn_pos = 234
set osd_motor_diag_pos = 234
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2547
set osd_pilot_name_pos = 234
set osd_gps_speed_pos = 234
set osd_gps_lon_pos = 234
set osd_gps_lat_pos = 234
set osd_gps_sats_pos = 234
set osd_home_dir_pos = 234
set osd_home_dist_pos = 234
set osd_flight_dist_pos = 234
set osd_compass_bar_pos = 234
set osd_altitude_pos = 234
set osd_pid_roll_pos = 234
set osd_pid_pitch_pos = 234
set osd_pid_yaw_pos = 234
set osd_debug_pos = 234
set osd_power_pos = 234
set osd_pidrate_profile_pos = 234
set osd_warnings_pos = 2377
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2465
set osd_pit_ang_pos = 234
set osd_rol_ang_pos = 234
set osd_battery_usage_pos = 234
set osd_disarmed_pos = 2517
set osd_nheading_pos = 234
set osd_up_down_reference_pos = 205
set osd_ready_mode_pos = 234
set osd_esc_tmp_pos = 234
set osd_esc_rpm_pos = 161
set osd_esc_rpm_freq_pos = 234
set osd_rtc_date_time_pos = 234
set osd_adjustment_range_pos = 234
set osd_flip_arrow_pos = 234
set osd_core_temp_pos = 280
set osd_log_status_pos = 234
set osd_stick_overlay_left_pos = 234
set osd_stick_overlay_right_pos = 234
set osd_rate_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_pid_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_rcchannels_pos = 234
set osd_camera_frame_pos = 35
set osd_efficiency_pos = 234
set osd_total_flights_pos = 234
set osd_aux_pos = 234
set osd_sys_goggle_voltage_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_voltage_pos = 234
set osd_sys_bitrate_pos = 234
set osd_sys_delay_pos = 234
set osd_sys_distance_pos = 234
set osd_sys_lq_pos = 234
set osd_sys_goggle_dvr_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_dvr_pos = 234
set osd_sys_warnings_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_temp_pos = 234
set osd_sys_fan_speed_pos = 234
set osd_canvas_width = 50
set osd_canvas_height = 18
set debug_mode = RX_EXPRESSLRS_SPI
set cpu_overclock = 120MHZ
set vtx_band = 5
set vtx_channel = 7
set vtx_power = 3
set vtx_freq = 5880
set displayport_msp_fonts = 0,0,0,0
set gyro_1_sensor_align = DEFAULT
set gyro_1_align_yaw = 0
set gyro_2_bustype = SPI
set gyro_2_sensor_align = CW0
set expresslrs_uid = 222,126,240,67,207,121
set expresslrs_rate_index = 1
set craft_name = BabyTooth HDzero
set pilot_name = Davey Boy

profile 0

profile 0

set vbat_sag_compensation = 100
set pidsum_limit = 1000
set p_pitch = 110
set i_pitch = 197
set d_pitch = 93
set f_pitch = 294
set p_roll = 111
set i_roll = 198
set d_roll = 89
set f_roll = 297
set p_yaw = 111
set i_yaw = 198
set f_yaw = 297
set d_min_roll = 67
set d_min_pitch = 68
set d_max_gain = 0
set d_max_advance = 0
set thrust_linear = 25
set feedforward_averaging = 2_POINT
set feedforward_smooth_factor = 65
set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 35
set simplified_pids_mode = OFF
set simplified_master_multiplier = 155
set simplified_d_gain = 145
set simplified_pi_gain = 160
set simplified_feedforward_gain = 160
set simplified_pitch_d_gain = 90
set simplified_pitch_pi_gain = 95
set ez_landing_limit = 5

profile 1

profile 2

profile 3

restore original profile selection

profile 0

rateprofile 0

rateprofile 0

set thr_mid = 45
set thr_expo = 10
set roll_rc_rate = 22
set pitch_rc_rate = 18
set yaw_rc_rate = 16
set roll_expo = 56
set pitch_expo = 56
set yaw_expo = 56
set roll_srate = 75
set pitch_srate = 60
set yaw_srate = 53

rateprofile 1

rateprofile 2

rateprofile 3

restore original rateprofile selection

rateprofile 0

save configuration

save

I've always used XT30 as I have a ton of GNB 550 1s batteries with XT30. BT2.0 should be fine.

And here's the canopy .stl

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yeCvCKpTy0-qOU6F4bpOmLEGwgyhXoXY/view?usp=drive_link

Thanks for sharing! It flies much better on your tune. Amazing job

Could you share battery stl also? I am tired of using rubber bands, because battery eject often

I would be happy to look at your tune. What esc firmware are you using?

And give me a run down on your components.

One other note. There was a known issue with elrs on the HDzero aio5. Random failsafes. The new elrs 3.5.4 has apparently fixed the issue. That was an early April update.