TBS Source One Slammed HD 7"

By wrong17 on Mar 25, 2021

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Here is another TBS Source One 7" HD build. Most of my builds may be similar but never the same. This time around I spent a good amount of time remixing a Moongoat rear XT60 mount to fix on this frame, plus adding the dual antenna holders for the DJI Air Unit and NOT the single antenna on a Caddx Vista. The DJI Air Unit is mounted upside down on the top plate and it held one with double side tape and 2 screws. The screws on the bottom of the air unit had similar spacing as the rear standoff hole for the Source One frame. So, I was able to use a longer M1.6 screw to hard mount it to the top plate.

I wanted to push the FPV camera forward so I will get less prop in its view. I used the same camera mount that was on a Floss 2 HD conversion kit. Unfortunately, I had to remix the file for it to fit this setup. I also removed the bottom standoff so it could be used as an Immortal T holder instead.

After my last build, I grown to like this new style of GoPro holder. Instead of a full case coverage I used a half case but with a unique lens guard that acts as a lock to prevent the GoPro from ejecting for the mount.

As for the motors, I use the same motors as I have with all my other 7" builds. I know the 1850KV motors might be a tad high, but it seems to work very well for my builds. When I am flying at sea level, I typically use about 70% - 80% throttle limit in betaflight. But when I go mountain surfing in higher altitude, I can my profiles through my DJI goggles so there is NO throttle limit, and it feels just like I was flying at sea level again. All my long flight times are based on sea level altitude, so I do not expect the same flight times when a flying in the thinner air up high in the mountains.


CLI settings in Betaflight

The PIDs, Rates, and Filter screen shots are in the image gallery below.

Vbat Compensation

set vbat_sag_compensation = 100
set vbat_pid_gain = off

HD (smoothed FF for HD cameras, strong low turn rate smoothness, low iterm relax to minimise bounce back)

set iterm_relax_cutoff = 10
set rc_smoothing_auto_smoothness = 20
set ff_interpolate_sp = AVERAGED_3
set ff_smooth_factor = 40
set ff_spike_limit = 55
set ff_boost = 0
set feedforward_transition = 40
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 70
set throttle_boost = 5
set throttle_boost_cutoff = 10
set dyn_lpf_dterm_curve_expo = 7
set gyro_rpm_notch_q = 800


Flight Times

Since this quad is very similar to my other 7" quad, I would only assume I would get the same flight times. Just to be sure, I did a test and cruised around the park for max flight time in 13mph wind / 29 mph gusts. Even with the high winds, I was able to get 26:26 minutes of flight time with MOLICEL 21700 P42A 4200mah 6S Lithium-Ion battery pack. The DVR footage is shown below. I included both the GoPro 7 and DJI footage to prove the flight times. I am pretty sure no one is going to watch this boring video, but please scrub through it to get an idea of the cruising speed.

Average Flight times at Cruising Speeds:

GNB 1800mah 6s Lipo - 12 minutes
18650 Lithium Ion 6s - 17 minutes
21700 Lithium Ion 6s - 25 minutes

Madien Flight (Mar 25, 2021) GoPro 7 Black


Madien Flight (Mar 25, 2021) DJI DVR


26min Flight Time GoPro 7 Black - Cruise around the park for max time in 13mph wind / 29 mph gusts


26min Flight Time DJI DVR - This is the same footage as above but recorded with the DJI Goggles.

Photos

Part List

Frame

RDQ Source One V3 7" Long Range Frame - 6mm V0.2 Arms (11 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$29.97

Flight Controller

Talon F4 V2 20x20 FC Flight Controller VTX Pit Mode Black Box (21 builds)
Heli-nation.com
$39.99

ESCs

T-Motor V45A 3-6S BLHeli_32 4-in-1 ESC (2 builds)
Getfpv.com
$34.99

Motors

4 x BrotherHobby Avenger V2 2507-1850KV 4-6S (13 builds)
Getfpv.com
$95.96

Propellers

HQProp DP 7X4X3 Propeller (Set of 4 - Light Grey) (55 builds)
Getfpv.com
See Site

FPV Transmitter

DJI Digital FPV Air Unit - Ultra Low Latency 720p 120FPS Digital HD
Racedayquads.com
$179.00

Receiver

TBS Crossfire Nano Rx FPV Long Range Drone Receiver (1498 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$24.95

Batteries

CNHL Black Series 22.2V 6S 1500mAh 100C LiPo Battery - XT60Default Title (6 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$31.99

Radio

Team BlackSheep TBS TANGO 2 V3 PRO RC RADIO (107 builds)
Heli-nation.com
$199.99

Goggles

DJI Goggles 2 (8 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$648.99

3D Printed

TBS Source One v3 HD Kit w/ XT60 Antenna GPS Mount - Caddx Vista Nebula Pro Holder - GoPro 5/6/7 & 9 Mount by wrong17 (3 builds)
Thingiverse.com
See Site

HD Camera

GoPro Bones - HERO10 Black (FPV Lightweight Drone Camera) (3 builds)
Gopro.com
See Site

Battery Charger

HOTA F6+ 1000W 60A 1-6S Quad Channel AC/DC Smart Charger - Grey
Racedayquads.com
$185.99

Battery Charger

HOTA D6 PRO Dual Charger 1-6S AC200W/DC650W 15A w/ Wireless Cellphone Charging - Black (14 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$117.98

Soldering Iron

TS100 Portable Programmable Smart Soldering Iron (265 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$58.99

Backpack

Lowepro QuadGuard BP X3 - Drone Backpack for 4 FPV Quad Racing Drones and 15" Laptop w/Exterior Mounts (Black)
Amazon.com
$286.00

Accessories

iFlight Crystal HD Patch and Stubby 5.8GHz RP-SMA Antenna Set for DJI - LHCP - Carbon
Racedayquads.com
$56.99
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Discussion

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Logibear   Jan 01, 2023  

i have been looking for a raised v3 arm guard for the deadcat arms on thingiverse for i dont know how long now. do you happen to have the stl files for the arm guards?

wrong17   Jan 02, 2023 
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Here is a link to the collection of 3D printed parts for the source one v3: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4844280
Check the STL named: TBS_Source_One_Arm_Protector_1_SLIM v11 Done.stl
Is that what you are looking for?

Logibear   Jan 02, 2023 

Yes, thank you very much!

alwaysbless   Mar 26, 2021  

You got an stl for that cage?

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Silverwing   Apr 09, 2021 

Did you have to do any remixing on it to make it work for the Source One?

alwaysbless   Apr 09, 2021 

It looks like it just fits without any modification since it mounts to standoffs. I bought it but dont think ill be using it with my S1 build.

wrong17   Apr 09, 2021 

@Silverwing you do not need to remix the cage if you the original standoffs. But if you use a standoff shorter than 25mm, then you will need to remix the cage.

Whiffles   Mar 26, 2021  

Looks great! How hard was it to tune?

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wrong17   Mar 26, 2021 
1

70% Throttle limit caps off the last 30% of your throttle. When you choose "scale" as the throttle limit type, it will distribute the 70% throughout the full span of the throttle stick. Hence you will get more resolution, when normally you will lose the last 30% of travel that we would not use. It will be like having motors around 1300kv range. It did not feel overly sensitive, with the throttle. I like these motors because it gives me options to adapt to different flight conditions and even use 4s batteries.

Whiffles   Mar 26, 2021 
1

Makes sense. If you aren't going to punch it might as well use the full range.

wrong17   Mar 26, 2021 
1

Ever since the release of BF 4.2.X you do not need to tune much at all. I add some screen shots of the changes I did in betaflight. The presets you enter in CLI plus the filter setting and bidirection dshot, it does wonders.

OptimaZe   Mar 25, 2021  
1

Awesome kwad!

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OptimaZe   Mar 26, 2021 

One of these days I'm gonna build a 7 inch for my hangar. I love the way yours turned out.

wrong17   Mar 26, 2021 
1

You should do it, I am surprised how well the 7” inch quad flies.

OptimaZe   Mar 26, 2021 

I bet it's great!

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