my first atempt at a socket, grabs a random quote from givesmehope.com, hope i didnt mess too much stuff up. also i used the nohtml alias from a script i saw knoeki post on this site once. which would be found here http://www.hawkee.com/snippet/5880/ thanks knoeki, there was some gmh snippets posted in that link but i couldnt get any of them to work, and thanks for any constructive criticism from anyone..